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Pocketsidewalk
I'll be making a short trip to Vegas next month, and I've been approved for a $2,500 casino credit line at Harrah's (I applied for $5,000). I'm a low stakes gambler; my gambling budget is typically around $5,000. This is my first time applying for and receiving casino credit at any casino. I feel like $2,500 is a low amount -- two markers for $1,000 and the credit line is pretty much gone. It certainly won't impress any pit bosses, and it may even piss them off to wonder why someone would even bother with such a low line of credit.
I am considering putting up $5,000 in front money in addition to the $2,500 casino credit. I called the main cage at Harrah's and was told that all markers would come from my front money first before being drawn from my casino credit (which makes sense). Since I only expect to gamble around $5,000, I may never even touch the $2,500 casino credit.
I have a few questions:
1. Has anyone had any experience combining casino credit with front money?
2. Will it look bad if my winnings and losses cause me to never use any of the $2,500 casino credit?
3. Will the casino be less likely to extend me credit in the future (or event close my credit account) if my markers are drawn entirely from front money and no casino credit is used?
4. Does play get rated automatically with any markers, regardless of whether they come from front money or casino credit?
I want to stay on good terms with the casino and would like to be able to eventually raise my credit line to $5,000 or more so I can avoid putting up front money in the future.
Thanks in advance for any answers and/or advice.
Wizardofnothing
Deposit 2500 front money- Draw the full marker for 5k at the table - anything more specific then that pm me

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odiousgambit
Confirm for me that you write checks to cover your markers, and that you sign something that allows the casino to draw against your bank account after a certain term with or without your further involvement.
That is what I would expect and the fact of the matter is you better have the money. I wouldn't get excited about the idea that it is 'credit'.
It means you don't have to carry cash around. That's fine and what it is really for.
Markers can get into a real weedy area too when degenerate gamblers are involved. Let's hope that is not you.
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odiousgambit


1. Has anyone had any experience combining casino credit with front money?

not me
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2. Will it look bad if my winnings and losses cause me to never use any of the $2,500 casino credit?

no


3. Will the casino be less likely to extend me credit in the future (or event close my credit account) if my markers are drawn entirely from front money and no casino credit is used?

it's not really credit, so no
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4. Does play get rated automatically with any markers, regardless of whether they come from front money or casino credit?

yes


I want to stay on good terms with the casino and would like to be able to eventually raise my credit line to $5,000 or more so I can avoid putting up front money in the future.

I wouldn't worry about it.

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Thanks in advance for any answers and/or advice.


PS: you're welcome, I have been looking into markers myself and don't have all the answers. The Marker system can be misused by the casinos IMO, but I think the vulnerable people are guys like professional athletes with a gambling problem.
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TwoFeathersATL
Just to add a bit in response to some of the questions, and ask a couple others.
'Front Money' is not a term I'm familiar with, I assumed it was just cash you brought with you but I could be wrong. WoN said to deposit it, and then draw against it at the tables? Unless it was a large amount of money I'm not sure why you wouldn't just swap for chips at the table. Seems like an extra step, but maybe some payoff in terms of attention from the Pit? Wish WoN hadn't asked to continue only by PM 'cause I'd like to know more about the subject and his advice.
It's been discussed a couple times in the last couple months whether playing with markers added any value beyond just the simple fact of not having to carry around uncomfortable (for you) large amounts of cash. I haven't read about any clear other advantage.
The OP applied for 5K LOC and rec'd 2.5K. That caught my attention, and I wondered why. My experience has been ( working with a bank acct specifically set-up to cover my LOC ) that you put say 110% of the amount of the requested LOC in that acct, the casino verifies (I assume) that the money is there and maybe runs a credit check on you. It might be more complicated than that, and anyone is welcome to chime in with additional info.
Of course working with markers, or casino credit, can be an incredibly dangerous proposition for anyone that doesn't have serious self control and discipline (cough, cough). You don't have to be a professional athlete. Gamblers always risk going broke. With markers you can go way, way, beyond broke. Proceed with great caution!!!!!!!
GamblingThe casinos are set-up to take your money, simple fact. You are supposed to have some fun in exchange. That makes them like many other forms of entertainment and I am not disparaging the concept, or casinos, in any way. I like to have fun, I don't mind paying for it. For some odd reason that MS Feathers doesn't understand, I happen to enjoy the hell out of BJ. Playing with markers is a dangerous game. Spending money with credit cards is similarly dangerous if you don't pay off the balance every single month. Just ask the 50% (guess) of American households that carry credit card debt from month to month!!!!
Just for example, there was a Friday night about a year ago that I walked into a casino where I had a $20K LOC and grabbed a 5K marker and proceeded to play, at a red chip table. Over the next 2 or 3 hours I took another three 5k markers, at a freaking red chip table, out of necessity to be able to continue to play. Unbelieveable, like one of those 18 yo's in a row nights. If it hadn't happened to me, I wouldn't believe it. You tell me it happened to you, I'd think BS, I might even type BS in a response and risk the wrath, but it happened. Everyone is different, but for me that was a huge amount of money. But it was money I had, in the bank, and I lost it. Sad day. I don't want to think about the possibility of losing money I don't have in the bank. Did I mention that playing with markers is playing in dangerous territory? Point made, I hope.
Got long winded, sorry.
There was also a mention in OP bout not using the credit. At least one of my LOC agreements specifically states that it becomes null and void if not used during any single 6 month period. I assume that means it stays in place as long as I play with markers against that LOC at least once every 5 months or so. I am not sure if that is an industry standard.Is online gambling bad for credit rating free
Good variance at the table to you. Just remember that variance is short term only, there is little or no variance over the long term.
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
Pocketsidewalk

Unless it was a large amount of money I'm not sure why you wouldn't just swap for chips at the table. Seems like an extra step, but maybe some payoff in terms of attention from the Pit? Wish WoN hadn't asked to continue only by PM 'cause I'd like to know more about the subject and his advice.
It's been discussed a couple times in the last couple months whether playing with markers added any value beyond just the simple fact of not having to carry around uncomfortable (for you) large amounts of cash. I haven't read about any clear other advantage.


Extra attention from the pit never hurts as long as it's good attention.
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The OP applied for 5K LOC and rec'd 2.5K. That caught my attention, and I wondered why. My experience has been ( working with a bank acct specifically set-up to cover my LOC ) that you put say 110% of the amount of the requested LOC in that acct, the casino verifies (I assume) that the money is there and maybe runs a credit check on you. It might be more complicated than that, and anyone is welcome to chime in with additional info.
Of course working with markers, or casino credit, can be an incredibly dangerous proposition for anyone that doesn't have serious self control and discipline (cough, cough). You don't have to be a professional athlete. Gamblers always risk going broke. With markers you can go way, way, beyond broke. Proceed with great caution!!!!!!!


In retrospect, I should've done more research regarding the way casinos evaluate your worth before extending casino credit. I believe that your current checking account balance or balance over the last several months is most important. There was no hard credit check from the casino.
I rarely keep a large balance in my checking account. I make most of my purchases with credit cards and then pay my credit cards off in full each month. I never keep a balance on my credit cards. The rest of my money goes into savings or money market accounts. So it's not like I don't have the money, I just don't keep it in a checking account that earns virtually no interest. I believe this is what caused me to receive a lower than expected amount of casino credit.
If I had to do it over, I would transfer money to my checking account a few months prior to submitting a casino credit application and let it sit in there. Perhaps 110% of the amount requested is the sweet spot as you suggested.
Wizardofnothing
It's almost all based on average daily balance
I have not had a single casino pull my actual credit - they run a bank report and
Central casino credit to make sure you haven't bounced any markers
If I recall right they use terminology like mid 4s mids5 mid6
As in a 1-9k bank balance a10-99k balance and a 100k-999k balance but I have had markers that started at 5k go up to 100k once I had them run through more then a couple times, keep in mind though if you are a green chip player they are not giving you a 50k marker it's also based on play. They will more likely give you a 100k marker with only 10k in bank of you show the play then they would give you a 50k marker with 500 grand in the bank if you don't show the play
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RS
Not to hijack the thread or nothing, but something interesting happened to me (which really confused the hell out of me). I have a front money account (small $$ amount), pulled out a marker, played a bit, lost, went to cage to put the rest of the amount back in. Apparently you can only pay back the full amount of a marker when using front money....I thought that was odd, but OK. Then she says I OWE money against my account. Seems odd, that I would OWE money, when really, it's all my money to begin with! I didn't think it would be setup the same way as credit lines are....I figured I'd just have a balance (like in a debit/savings account at a bank), and whenever you take out money, your balance goes down, whenever you add in money, balance goes up. None of this 'pay back money you borrowed' stuff.
Seems odd they'd do it that way....like what are they gonna do if I don't pay back my own money? LOL
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TwoFeathersATL
I think I'd have to ask for the rest of my money back, now, just to make sure it's still mine?
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
Gabes22
2F, another good reason for Front Money is for travelers. Say you are travelling from Atlanta to Vegas, and have a gambling budget of $10,000. Instead of talking out a marker which you have to pay back, you can pre-arrange to have funds you intend to gamble with wired to the casino before your trip so you don't have to travel with $10,000 and have any run-ins with TSA or the PD at the airport due to having such a large sum of cash on you. You then take it out like you would a marker, but don't have any obligation to pay it back.
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RPToro
I've never had casino credit, but am considering it for an upcoming Vegas trip (end of May). I was hoping to get some insight from those of you who've utilized casino credit.
I know the official response is that having a credit line in no way changes your comps/offers, but has anyone noticed a change in the types of offers they receive after establishing credit?
Also, when applying for credit, did you get the $$ amount (if it was realistic) that you were asking for? Or did it get approved at a lower rate?
Thanks!

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I have become a big fan of casino credit.
Casino credit is best described as a check cashing service by the casino. The casino does not check your credit score or anything like that. The only thing that they care about is how much money you have right now in your checking account at your bank.
Let's say you ask for $10,000 in 'casino credit'. The casino will call your bank and ask them for the six month average that you have had in your checking account. From what I understand, the casino will then give you a line of credit for almost 100% of your 6 months average. If you do not have $10,000 in your primary checking account for the last six months, the casino will not give you a line.
I would say, yes, having a line of credit probably does give you a slight advantage in terms of comps. From a casino's perspective, they want to know how much money they can take you for on any given trip. However, the casino really cares about how your average bet is and how many hours you put in. If you have a $100,000 line of credit but are only betting $25 a hand, they will call you on it.
Still, if you are going to a casino that you have never played at before, I like to open up my line of credit before I call and ask for a host. Normally, I ask for a $25,000 to $50,000 line of credit, call up a host and say my average bet is X, and then ask them what I can expect. Often times a host will say, 'I'll set you up in a room/junior suite, and then based on your action we should be able to RFB (free room/food/beverage) you for the rest of your stay.' They are giving you the benefit of the doubt before hand since you have a line of credit with them. I have no idea what would happen if you had booked 7 free nights with them and have not gambled at all after the first day or two. Probably your host will come looking for you and kick you out/make you pay for your room if you had no intention of playing.
Even better is sending them some front money to gamble with. For example, let's say I have a $50,000 line of credit at the Mandalay Bay. I might send them a cashier's check for $10,000 a week before I arrive as front money to get my feet wet. A host loves that because he knows he has a 'gambler' coming to town who is ready to play. They might send you a free limo to pick you up at the airport, etc. in that case. However, they will normally say that 'If you meet your average bet of X, you will get Y.'
Hope that helps. If you have specific questions let me know.